Antica eclissi nel testo astronomico ugaritico KTU 1,78

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    Antica eclissi solare nel testo astronomico ugaritico KTU 1,78

    CITAZIONE
    TRANSLATING, THEN INTERPRETING THE TEXT:

    btt ym hdt, hyr `rbt, sps tgrh, rsp

    btt=Sixth, sixth hour
    ym hdt = day of new moon
    hyr=Hiyarru

    Meaning an eclipse occurred in the sixth hour on the day of the new
    moon of Hiyyaru.

    rbt=enter (sexually)
    sps=Sun
    tgrh= HER gate, meaning Hathor's gate/vulva at sunrise
    Rsp=Reshep, Taurus

    Meaning the sun entered Hathor's gate in Reshep, meaning the sun rose
    in Taurus.
    http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bib...omy/message/230

    The KTU 1.78 astrotext is an interesting text with its own reservations but
    all considered is likely our best reference for an "absolute" dating for the
    Egyptian timeline. "Absolute dating" only comes from astronomical texts and
    there are no critical astronomically dated events in early Egyptian history
    to anchor the timeline.

    The circumstance of this text is that it is the only astronomical text found
    at Ugarit but the surface was charred confirming it was in a fire. A fire
    at Ugarit was reported in the 12th year of Akhenaton. The nature of the
    text, which also contained a liver reading suggests it was "current" a well
    when you consider the absence of any library of astronomical texts. The
    circumstance of this particular eclipse is what might have prompted the
    liver reading since eclipses were "read" as good or bad omens for various
    nations depending upon precisely where the eclipse began (i.e. top third,
    middle, bottom third). This particular eclipse which occurred in the
    "sixth" hour (between 5:00 a.m. and 6:00 a.m.) was apparently already in
    progress so precisely where the eclipse began would not have been seen,
    prompting the liver reading to find out if this was a good or bad omen for
    Ugarit. The liver reading turned out "bad".

    The question here is whether a text of this nature would have been "saved"
    for any period of time past the immediate relevancy of the eclipse itself.
    Because of this "circumstantial" factor though, it becomes a potentially
    good dating reference if this was the same/year time as that fire reported
    in year 12 of Akhenaton. The text is so specific though. The hour, day,
    month, and sun rising in "Reshep" (Egyptian reference to "Taurus" the
    "Bull/Lord of Heaven") can only be dated to 1375BCE. It is one of the most
    absolutely dated references in all of ancient history as far as astronomical
    texts go. That being the case though, dated to year 12 of Akhenaton, the
    earlier dating for Akhenaton would be absolute-dated 8 years earlier to
    begin his reign in 1386BCE. The earlier dating had his rule beginning in
    1378BCE. So this is not far from where he is already dated in this case
    other than it preferences the earlier dating than the popular later dating
    that has his rule beginning around 1351BCE.

    L.W.

    www.historykb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/an...aton-to-1386BCE
    CITAZIONE
    Reshep "Il Toro del cielo" (dio egizio di origine semitica,sposo della dea,anch' essa semitica,Qadesh)

    image

    (....)RSP/Reshap is a reference to Mars. But as noted, a reference to a
    planet is awkward with any significance to an eclipse event,
    especially since the zodiac house is far more fundamental. So the
    question is whether or not Reshep is an appropriate reference to the
    zodiac house this eclipse occurs in, which is Taurus.

    Please understand that, indeed, Reshep could be a reference to Mars
    and still be a reference to Taurus. Gods and goddesses identified
    with both constellations as well as planets, as in the case of VIRGO,
    the virgin mother goddess also being associated with Venus. But
    given a clear-cut choice between a casual planetary association
    rather than the zodiac house of occurrence, Reshep is far more
    fundamental as a reference to TAURUS.

    It is thus after the fact when comparing the imagery of Reshep, its
    associations in the Egyptian pantheon and the general concept of the
    god in comparison to the imagery, associations and titles of Taurus
    that we find consistent overlapping. For instance, the title used
    for Reshep in Hyksos-period Egypt was "Lord of Heaven" which is the
    title of Taurus which was also "Lord of Heaven" only translated
    as "Bull of Heaven." Lord, which is Bel/Baal also means bull. So
    the precise title alone associates Reshep with the bull of heaven.

    There is also iconography of Reshep via his Syrian crown combined
    with the tassel of a bull and a bull's head in some of the Egyptian
    iconography that is a direct association between Taurus or the "Bull
    of Heaven" and Reshep as the angry god. So it would not be at all a
    surprise if at Ugarit Reshep was used as a designation of Taurus.
    Reshep was considered a bull and so there's a natural connection.(.......)

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    Edited by SaCraba - 14/7/2010, 21:12
     
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